Legislature(2011 - 2012)BUTROVICH 205

03/08/2011 09:00 AM Senate STATE AFFAIRS


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+ HB 28 TEMP LICENSE/FEE WAIVER FOR PROFESSIONALS TELECONFERENCED
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        HB  28-TEMP LICENSE/FEE WAIVER FOR PROFESSIONALS                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WIELECHOWSKI announced the next  order of business would be                                                               
HB 28. [CSHB 28(FIN) was before the committee.]                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:28:26 AM                                                                                                                    
KACI SCHROEDER,  staff to Representative Bill  Thomas, sponsor of                                                               
HB 28,  said the bill would  allow a military spouse  to obtain a                                                               
temporary license to practice their  profession while they are in                                                               
the  state.  Military spouses  are  some  of the  most  transient                                                               
populations  in   the  country,   and  being  able   to  maintain                                                               
employment  is  extremely  important   to  military  spouses  and                                                               
families. She noted  that teachers and attorneys  are not covered                                                               
in  the  bill.  Teachers  in  Alaska are  not  regulated  by  the                                                               
Department  of  Commerce  (DCCED);  they  are  regulated  by  the                                                               
Department of Education, which has  already addressed this issue.                                                               
Attorneys also  have their  own regulatory  system, and  they can                                                               
come  to the  state  and  practice on  a  temporary basis  before                                                               
taking the bar exam.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WIELECHOWSKI asked if doctors are covered.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. SCHROEDER answered yes.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GIESSEL  noted that if a  nurse is licensed in  the state                                                               
of  Maryland and  put on  active duty  at Elmendorf,  the federal                                                               
government  covers that  by  maintaining  that person's  license.                                                               
They  are not  licensed in  Alaska or  under jurisdiction  of the                                                               
Board of Nursing in Alaska.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. SCHROEDER replied the intent of  the bill is that if a person                                                               
licensed  in Alaska  is called  to active  duty for  some reason,                                                               
they  are  not at  risk  of  losing  their Alaska  license  while                                                               
serving  on active  duty  anywhere  in the  world.  They are  not                                                               
required  to  pay  licensing  fees or  keep  up  with  continuing                                                               
education while they out of state on active duty.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:31:46 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KOOKESH  asked for clarification that  the section refers                                                               
only to Alaska residents.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. SCHROEDER answered yes.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GIESSEL asked what is the  intent of the language on page                                                               
2, referring to 180 days after active duty ends.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. SCHROEDER  replied they  wanted an  exemption but  they don't                                                               
want  a person  who has  been gone  to drop  back in  without any                                                               
licensing requirements.  This gives them  six months to  get back                                                               
to speed without practicing; then  they can complete requirements                                                               
and return to practicing their profession.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:33:44 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GIESSEL asked how this would be enforced.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. SCHROEDER answered DCCED could speak to enforcement.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:34:50 AM                                                                                                                    
SARAH  CHAMBERS,  Program  Coordinator,  Professional  Licensing,                                                               
Division of  Corporations, Department of Commerce,  Community and                                                               
Economic Development (DCCED), said part  of their task will be to                                                               
develop mechanisms to  make sure these things are  done. She said                                                               
that  DCCED   has  an  investigations  wing   and  administrative                                                               
relationships  with the  military  and other  agencies to  gather                                                               
information. They feel confident they can protect the public.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KOOKESH mentioned fees and  other requirements, and asked                                                               
if this applies to 180 days after leaving active duty.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. CHAMBERS stated that was correct.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GIESSEL  said  having  had  the  honor  to  serve  on  a                                                               
regulatory board  she understands the complexities  involved; the                                                               
board has a  responsibility to insure that  ineligible people are                                                               
not practicing and that they  are bringing themselves up to speed                                                               
with whatever they  may have missed. She also  wondered about the                                                               
cost to the regulatory board should there be a violation.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:38:09 AM                                                                                                                    
MS.  CHAMBERS  responded  the  division  regulates  40  different                                                               
licenses. Sometimes  a person on  active duty will be  engaged in                                                               
their profession, while  some may not. This is not  really a one-                                                               
size-fits-all program, and will not  be enacted that way. It will                                                               
be  the task  of  DCCED  to work  through  the needed  processes.                                                               
Regarding  a fiscal  note, the  division  director believes  they                                                               
will  work to  be proactive  rather than  reactive. The  division                                                               
feels  the risk  will  be minimal,  and they  should  be able  to                                                               
absorb any costs through current fees and receipts.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  KOOKESH  stated  that  many people  returning  from  the                                                               
military  have a  lot of  emotional problems.  They need  the six                                                               
months  afterwards to  get back  on their  feet. This  bill gives                                                               
them time to adjust.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CHAMBERS answered  that is  correct. Six  months was  chosen                                                               
because  it does  take time  to  disengage from  active duty  and                                                               
return to society.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MEYER  said the  bill is  interesting and  worthwhile. If                                                               
the division  says there are  no additional costs, he  will trust                                                               
that opinion. He  asked how many people will be  affected, and if                                                               
other states have done this.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SCHROEDER replied  it is  difficult  to track  that kind  of                                                               
data, but they  estimate there are 8,000 military  spouses in the                                                               
state, with maybe 1,000 who require licensing.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:43:38 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MEYER asked about other states.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. SCHROEDER answered  that both Colorado and  Florida have done                                                               
something similar.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  WIELECHOWSKI asked  if the  bill had  a Finance  Committee                                                               
referral, and how many people might take advantage.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. SCHROEDER replied there was no Finance referral.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  WIELECHOWSKI said  the bill  would seem  to have  a fiscal                                                               
impact.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CHAMBERS  responded  that  the first  section  of  the  bill                                                               
requires  military spouses  to  pay all  fees  when applying  for                                                               
licenses.  The  second  portion relates  to  actual  active  duty                                                               
military that would already be currently licensed by the state.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WIELECHOWSKI asked  if there might be  any equal protection                                                               
arguments against the bill.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. SCHROEDER  explained the impacts are  not necessarily out-of-                                                               
state vs. in-state.  The only difference for  military spouses is                                                               
for their licenses to be expedited.  Also, it is not uncommon for                                                               
military groups  to be treated  differently, especially  in times                                                               
of war.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WIELECHOWSKI  asked if  the bill  includes the  Coast Guard                                                               
and National Guard.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. SCHROEDER answered that it does.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GIESSEL noted  that some  of the  most exemplary  health                                                               
care  providers in  state are  retired military.  She asked  if a                                                               
board has  more stringent requirements  in place, does  this bill                                                               
lower those requirements.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. SCHROEDER answered no.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:47:19 AM                                                                                                                    
MARK SANSOUCI,  Liaison for military  families in  the Northwest,                                                               
Department of  Defense (DOD), said  military spouse careers  is a                                                               
top  priority of  First Lady  Michelle  Obama. Military  families                                                               
need the  dual incomes  and there is  also concern  for retention                                                               
and  reenlisting.  Fifty-nine  percent of  military  members  are                                                               
married; 72  percent of those are  in the NCO and  officer class.                                                               
DOD data shows that today in  Alaska there are 13,229 active duty                                                               
military spouses.  Roughly 50  percent of  them are  employed, so                                                               
that  would be  about  6,500. They  don't know  how  many may  be                                                               
licensed.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  WIELECHOWSKI  asked  what  the percentages  are  in  other                                                               
states.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. SANSOUCI answered  that in Florida the bill  was just enacted                                                               
in July 2010,  so they don't have good numbers  yet. Colorado has                                                               
a  different  way of  handling  licenses,  so  there is  no  real                                                               
comparison.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WIELECHOWSKI said it would be helpful to have that data.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:51:04 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  WIELECHOWSKI closed  public testimony  and held  HB 28  in                                                               
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
CSHB 28 Sponsor Statement 2.pdf SSTA 3/8/2011 9:00:00 AM
HB 28
HB 27 Supporting Document - Professions Covered by HB 28.pdf SSTA 3/8/2011 9:00:00 AM
HB 27
HB 28
HB 28 Supporting Document - Dental Society Letter.pdf SSTA 3/8/2011 9:00:00 AM
HB 28
CSHB 28 Supporting Documents - Article Military Spouses.pdf SSTA 3/8/2011 9:00:00 AM
HB 28